Scorch: Damage is increased by 42.8% of bonus Spell Damage Increased Spell Damage is split into two categories: Overall Spell Damage and magic school damage. If getting this fixed means that we need 50 people using this, then I'll take that over this not getting fixed at all. Hello, thank you for the report @Chenocide and @Akensai ! Sign in Spell Coefficient. Drillborer Disk - item ID: 17066 - spell ID: 15438 Thorns This damage scales with spell power, attack power and weapon speed. things that would have been hotfixed even in Vanilla if found at the time, that may not have been found or become widely known until far after Vanilla's lifecycle). Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community. If you use rank7 (or rank8 if you have learned it from the book) you will get the full +200 damage. Shadowstrike, Hakkari Manslayer, the Skullflame Shield, Demon Forged Breastplate and Wraith Schyte — this one DOES NOT scale 1:1 with spell power. In MaNGOS it was a formula constructed in the database. Include Screenshots from the issue if necessary, Taken from a druid with me using auto attacks: Hi everyone. The main permanent source of haste is from gear. Also idk why people still name wow classic as vanilla. tested and reported. Talents with +% Damage (Firepower, Piercing Ice, Arcane Instability, Arcane Power) is multiplyed ->after<- +Damage in the formula, so the effect will naturally scale with you collecting +Damage eq. Fetish of Chitinous Spikes - ID: 21488 Traps can only be placed when out of combat. By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and This means that the effect gets increasingly more and more powerful to the point where attackers takes several thousand points of damage. Requires Engineering (205) The size of spell crits depends on the character's class and spec, as well as the spell cast: All healing crits heal for 200% of the normal amount; All druid, mage, priest, shaman and warlock crits deal 200% normal damage; Elemental shaman crits deal 250% normal damage through [Elemental Fury]. Scorch: Damage is increased by 42.8% of bonus Spell Damage Increased Spell Damage is split into two categories: Overall Spell Damage and magic school damage. Dal-wow is like the special kid in class when it comes to actually getting fixes pushed to live but I hope this can motivate them to prioritize it higher. Let’s say you have +200 spell damage in total, you use rank1 arcane missiles but you will only gain about 20 more damage for your full channel of the spell. https://puu.sh/vMbCR/94b5f89990.png, Patch 3.0.3 spell power scaling - comments from Cloak of Fire with patch nerf Increased Spell Damage An item that increases Damage done by Spells and Effects by 21 will not add 21 damage to all spells you cast. Heart of Wyrmthalak - ID: 22321 -Master Destruction: Cast Master level Destruction spells for half magicka. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I agree with all of this and especially the last part here. Issues without proofs will be closed and tag On Hold will be added until the proof is provided. Cantrip scaling exacerbates this problem for me. 18 min von perculia Blizzard has confirmed that the proc effect from tested and reported. Hi everyone. You signed in with another tab or window. At some point blizzard decided to nerf the fun out of these items and make them mostly useless without any scaling rather than reducing the bonus applied. Ofc they didn't change scaling in classic remake because they want it to be like it was in past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMyoPqDHjf0, Video 2: That said, the correlation between casting time or duration and the strength of a spell is not perfect. What is means is, that a 4.00 speed weapon will deal twice as much damage per hit as a 2.00 speed weapon, but since it swings twice as often, the effective damage over time is the same. I will also keep looking for more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ycYWFWaMDE, Include the ID for the game objects, npcs (creatures,pets,minions), spells, items, quests, instances, zones, achievements, skills, You can research this on several pages like http://wotlk.openwow.com or http://wowhead.com/. Darkmoon Card: Maelstrom - item ID: 19289 - spell ID: 23686Lightning Strike Fetish of Chitinous Spikes - item ID: 21488 - spell ID: 26168Chitinous Spikes By increasing a periodic effect's tick rate, the effect's damage or healing is dealt more quickly. Spell power increases the damage amount of damaging spells and the healing amount of healing spells. Only once the issue was marked with "Fixed - On Live Server", you can find the fix on your game server. So I propose a solution that I don't think … If mind flay could crit and receive the full benefit from spell damage you could see Spriest top end damage increase by nearly 200 dps. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://classicdb.ch/?item=19852#comments. I can Confirm the issue and will combine the list of items together with the spells they cast. Unlike ALL other items sharing the SAME tooltip (“Chance on hit: Steals X to Y life from target enemy”) — e.g. Edit* Prior to Patch 3.0.2, the attribute known as spell damage would only increase the effects of damaging spells. One thing I dislike about 5e is that damage spells don't scale at all. The difference between the two values is 37, which is roughly 26.3% of 140. privacy statement. Instant cast spells are considered 1.5 second cast times. The size of spell crits depends on the character's class and spec, as well as the spell cast: All healing crits heal for 200% of the normal amount; All druid, mage, priest, shaman and warlock crits deal 200% normal damage; Elemental shaman crits deal 250% normal damage through [Elemental Fury]. You may want to see what was done there. A paladin or shaman getting a little extra damage on Neretzek procs because of the spellpower on their hybrid gear wasn't that big a deal. Blizzard named it classic so it's classic It's lile calling bfa battle for andorhal If you want spell dmg you need items that increase spell dmg, intellect does not affect spells dmg. Scaling the spell power coefficient helps preserve the base mana efficiency of spells. If there are more items like these (that shouldn't scale with SP) please comment below. There are multiple people on the server using the neck (as it does not show in combat log) during arena. WoW Classic Not A Bug List - Neretzek's Proc Doesn't Scale with Spell Damage geposted vor 4 std. Haste also increases the tick rate of damage over time and heal over time effects. Hope you enjoy! Against direct-damage spells (spells that deliver their full damage upon impact, such as Fireball, Mind Blast, and Earth Shock), this resistance is the percentage of damage resisted on average. Fireball has a small damage over time component, but is not considered a hybrid spell, so it receives only the Direct Damage bonus to its direct damage component. If I lost you anywhere in this pile of text, please tell me , good luck. Talents with +% Damage (Firepower, Piercing Ice, Arcane Instability, Arcane Power) is multiplyed ->after<- +Damage in the formula, so the effect will naturally scale with you collecting +Damage eq. Serpent Sting is a damage over time effect that deals Nature damage. Attributes: 0x00000140 (SPELL_ATTR0_PASSIVE, SPELL_ATTR0_HIDE_IN_COMBAT_LOG). If you look at item procs that scale with spellpower, what classes they were usually useful for, and how Blizzard ended up nerfing them, it seems pretty obvious that almost none of them were ever intended to scale with it at all. Mine hit for 1200, ICC gear will be 2k/ea. The changes/fixes will be applied with the NEXT changelog on the liverealm in the future. [Mechanics] Spellpower scaling with "when struck" items. Have 2 old videos to prove that this has been an issue for a long time: Video 1: Oil of Immolation - item ID: 8956 - spell ID: 11350 Fire Shield, (Is apparently not listed in the combat log). The issue was mostly ignored save for Ragnaros items being fixed. They were talking about technical exploits like messing with the server and they were probably also including certain walljumping, but I'm confident it'd expand to the last bit of what you said. Ramstein's Lightning Bolts - item ID: 13515 - spell ID: 17668 Ramstein's Lightning Bolts Spell damage gear never increases the DoT on fireball. The issue was fixed by a developer and will be tested on the Public Test Realm in the future (PTR). You know that all damage this dummy does is due to shockwave spell damage. Shadowstrike, Hakkari Manslayer, the Skullflame Shield, Demon Forged Breastplate and Wraith Schyte — this one DOES NOT scale 1:1 with spell power. A dedicated wowhead-like world database browser for the Light's Hope Vanilla/Classic WoW community. Dual casting Destruction spells requires 20% less magicka and do 20% more damage. The beneficial Spell Damage stats for Mages are Spell Damage, Frost damage, and Fire damage. Press J to jump to the feed. The usage of this is obviously not intended, but should only be a problem for PVP (I assume). A community for World of Warcraft: Classic fans. Blizzard named it classic so it's classic It's lile calling bfa battle for andorhal If you want spell dmg you need items that increase spell dmg, intellect does not affect spells dmg. Zin-blackrock 10 July 2019 19:48 #16 Spriests are basically the best duelists in the game with gear (at least r10 pvp set) but expecting to get “scaling gear” is unrealistic for a very long time. You can research this on several pages like http://wowhead.com or http://wowwiki.wikia.com or http://www.youtube.com/ Typically, this follows the formula: [Cast Time of Spell] / 3.5 = [Coefficient]. in Vanilla, Imp SoR scaled with spell dmg from gear/items only; in TBC, Imp SoR scaled with spell dmg from gear/items but also all other bonuses on top such as an on-use spell damage trinket, Sanctity Aura, One-Handed Specialization and Holy Guidance which further boosted your spell dmg by 35% of your total Intellect when 5/5 In alpha build 26010, we found that Melee & Hunter abilities which were previously based on weapon damage now instead use attack power as a direct coefficient.On live, attack power based abilities ignore weapon damage entirely, raising questions of whether weapons would scale poorly for everyone without greatly increased stats, weapon damage would no longer exist, or some other unknown change. Multiple items from vanilla with the attribute "when struck in combat" or similar attributes, seems to scale with spell power. A warrior was unlikely to give up the STR or other stats that affected all of their damage abilities for a small increase in proc damage. Typically, this follows the formula: [Cast Time of Spell] / 3.5 = [Coefficient]. With Judgement of the Crusader active (140 Holy spell damage), that range increased to 104 to 105 damage per proc. Have a question about this project? Based on this (gave the list to Cheno) quite a few where missed and I suspect they all scale accordingly due to the same functions. Drillborer Disk - ID: 17066 As of Patch 6.0.2, all DoT and HoT effects scale with haste. Talisman of Binding Shard - item ID: 17782 - spell ID: 21991 Talisman of Binding now, this guy could jsut be wrong/lying i guess but theres multiple old comments there from 2006 that agree with him at least, and they wrote this on patch 1.12 so if its correct then at least soem item procs should scale fully even in late vanilla. Reagents: Mageweave Cloth, Solid Blasting Powder (3), Unstable Trigger: Goblin Sapper Charge. All the new AQ spell Ranks follow the same above calculations if anyone was curious. I was checking out a few items and they seem really inconsistent when it comes to procs and damage scaling through spell power. https://puu.sh/vMbLk/922a2ccb04.png. here's a link to a good +Damage calculator: Combining all of these items on one character should not amount to the point where level 70+ characters and npcs die in just a few hits. Spell power is an attribute that increases the effect of spells. This means that the effect gets increasingly more and more powerful to the point where attackers takes several thousand points of damage. Alongside the basic spells, you can spec into certain extra spells. Up to a maximum of 200%. Multiple items from vanilla with the attribute "when struck in combat" or similar attributes, seems to scale with spell power. Trap will exist for 1 min. It means that pretty quickly there's nearly no reason to ever cast a low level damage spell. The only items that had scaling taken from them were the thorns type ones where you need to get hit but the weapon procs always scaled. Neretzek, The Blood Drinker is broken, its damage and lifesteal proc did not get bonus scaling from spell power value, while it should, other wepons with similar procs, like Corrupted Ashbringer also could be affected by this bug Here is an old vanilla video showing Neretzek proc damage and healing numbers both benefits from spell power https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMyoPqDHjf0, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ycYWFWaMDE, http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_shield, commit: e95c245a15525e1af224d19fb9f9a0dfa29ce964, commit: 9de3832360d8bd5432152d8088e10dfa2720c4dc (from. Learn every spell (all ranks) for the class (except for spells learned as a talent)..learn all_recipes profession: Learn all recipes for the given profession and sets skill to max level..cooldown clear [spell_id] Clears the cooldown of the given spell_id … Blizz overlooked it at the release of TBC and people notice and started using these items with great effectiveness (with TBC gear and higher SP), so they nerfed them in the later patches of TBC (early WotLK). Spell crit damage. Edit: Adding to list of items Also idk why people still name wow classic as vanilla. We'll see what Blizzard ends up doing. The Spell Coefficient is the amount of bonus healing or bonus spell damage that a spell benefits from. Cloak of Fire - item ID: 14134 - spell ID: 18364 Cloak of Fire But the damage of every cast is still increased by 86 damage, which is now a 34.4 dps increase. This is a great spell to use while leveling, but is not used at Level 60 because its damage does not scale with attack power and it takes up a debuff slot. ... 75. Leaving the issue open as a developer has to close it. Already on GitHub? do it (or that it was bugged). Against direct-damage spells (spells that deliver their full damage upon impact, such as Fireball, Mind Blast, and Earth Shock), this resistance is the percentage of damage resisted on average. Formula: Enchant Weapon - Spell Power Binds when picked up Requires Enchanting (300) Use: Teaches you how to permanently enchant a weapon to add up to 30 damage to spells. Razor Gauntlets - ID: 18326. Lower rank spells get lesser +dmg than higher rank ones. P.S. The beneficial Spell Damage stats for Mages are Spell Damage, Frost damage, and Fire damage. You have to look up the Spell-coefficient for our spells to see how much of your spelldamage will benefit the various spells. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails. Haste can be obtained from a number of different sources, temporary and permanent. Then I … Ofc they didn't change scaling in classic remake because they want it to be like it was in past. Razor Gauntlets - item ID: 18326 - spell ID: 20886 Thorns Dmg+3 People were exploiting it before I posted this. ), Other items which have a similar proc to them are also affected in this manner.". Who knows what this means for Classic. This should be very fast and easy to test. Said items should either scale differently or not at all. so if you have a spell with 100 base and 50% of spellpower scaling you will do 120dmg with your +40 item. Multiple items from vanilla with the attribute "when struck in combat" or similar attributes, seems to scale with spell power. Do you know which one is it? I couldn't find any report relevent to this issue. https://puu.sh/vMb7W/e61819fe0a.png, Patch 2.4.1 spell power scaling - comments from Drillborer Disk keep in mind, in vanilla many spells had different ranks and skillable … Scaling the spell power coefficient helps preserve the base mana efficiency of spells. Pyroblast was changed in patch 1.9 to deal 100% of +spell damage on impact and 71.4% of +spell damage to it's DoT component. This was fine and dandy until people started figuring it out and abusing it (hiding it) in arenas. That said, the correlation between casting time or duration and the strength of a spell is not perfect. here's a link to a good +Damage calculator: I just tested the weapon Neretzek, The Blood Drinker, from AQ40. Ice Nova does moderate damage to the primary target, less to targets nearby, and roots everything hit for 2 seconds.. Focus Magic applies a buff to an ally for 30 minutes. if you have 400dmg/heal this axe will proc for 448-454dmg, and heal you for that much as well. 1. For the former Mage talent, see Spell Power (mage talent). Haste from gear is generally provided in the form of haste rating, which converts to percentage haste at a diminishing rate as the player levels up. This needs to be fixed now, not hidden. The addition of spell power effects may change the mana efficiency of a spell significantly. In alpha build 26010, we found that Melee & Hunter abilities which were previously based on weapon damage now instead use attack power as a direct coefficient.On live, attack power based abilities ignore weapon damage entirely, raising questions of whether weapons would scale poorly for everyone without greatly increased stats, weapon damage would no longer exist, or some other unknown change. Link Game link Formula: Enchant Weapon - Spell Power. In fact, it doesn’t scale AT ALL. Counters the enemy's spellcast, preventing any spell from that school of magic from being … And at what rate? Up to a maximum of 200%. Neretzek, The Blood Drinker is broken, its damage and lifesteal proc did not get bonus scaling from spell power value, while it should, other wepons with similar procs, like Corrupted Ashbringer also could be affected by this bug Here is an old vanilla video showing Neretzek proc damage and healing numbers both benefits from spell power Haste rating can also be added to gear with enchantments and gems. I think every spells have to be fixed individually (not completely sure). Basically the dummy has to cast it because this lets you differentiate from hero physical damage and spell damage if you catch my drift. We dont know how they will be rolling out patches, whether it will be a progressive cycle or a cumulative patch with no further changes. 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